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Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property ComponentKunenaControllerTopicItemDisplay::$document is deprecated in libraries/kunena/controller/display.php on line 171

Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaForumCategory::$params is deprecated in libraries/kunena/forum/category/category.php on line 212

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Manndil
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Manndil válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Nem tudom, ti hogy vagytok vele, de én sajnálom, hogy Glórfindelt kihagyták a filmből.Persze Arwennek fontos szerepe van a történet további részében, de Glórfindel nem egy átlagos tünde, nem lehet csak úgy kihagyni!Fontos szerepe van a tündék történetében.

Ha már itt tartunk; szerintem poén lett volna az eredeti történetet meghagyni akkor is, mikor a társaság Lórienbe érkezik.( Legolas leesik egy fáról..) Gondoljatok csak bele, egy tünde leesik a fáról, ráadásul egy erdőtünde ... Mekkorta poén! :!:

( mármint annak, aki ismeri a tündéket)

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

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Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

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Namarie
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Namarie válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Ancalimon! Ha van időd, légyszíves keresd meg azokat a szöveghelyeket, amik Glorfindel reinkarnálódását bizonyítják! Nekem is volt egy ilyen megérzésem, de nem tudtam bizonyítani. Egyébként a reinkarnálódás a kereszténységgel sem volt ellentétes a korai korszakában, csak aztán az ellenkezője lett a dogma. A Bibliában pl. Kersztelő Szent Jánostól azt kérdezik, ő-e IUllés., Tehát Tolkien nyugodtan dolgozhatott ezzel . A szöveghelyeket előre is köszönöm4

"ó, én vad atyámfiai, nem fog átok: elmegyek én tihozzátok"
"Gyere ide, ne félj! Biztonságban vagy a biztonságban lévők között!"

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Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

amanibhavam
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amanibhavam válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

igen, én vagyok az elkövető

love is the shadow that ripens the wine

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Morgana
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Morgana válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Csatlakozom Ancalimonhoz, mint amatőr stiliszta: csodálatos a fordítás nyelvezete. :oops:

S. P. Q. L.

"Szabad járása van a létből a semmibe,
a semmiből a létbe."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ankalimon
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23 éve 2 hete #81123 Írta: Ankalimon

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Ankalimon válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Amani, ez a Te fordításod? Ha igen, akkor gratula...

angwen:
Ez a reinkarnációs koncepció kezdettől fogva benne volt a Szilmarillok különböző szövegváltozataiban, olvasható a magyarul is megjelent "Az elveszett mesék" című kötetben is. A Szil megjelent szövegében azonban csak halvány utalások szerepelnek erre (noha természetesen semmi sincs ami ezzel ellentétes koncpeciót hordoznak).

Igen, most már értem mire gondoltál. Az egyik lehetőség szerint Lúthien tényleg választhatta volna az újjászületést tündeként Valinorban, a többi ott élő tünde egyikeként.

Az igazság a kis álom, amelyben az én elgondolja a világot.
A valóság a nagy álom, amelyben Isten gondolja önmagát.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

amanibhavam
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amanibhavam válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

love is the shadow that ripens the wine

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Angwen
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Angwen válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Ez a reinkarnációs dolog számomra teljesen új. Honnan veszitek?
A valák közötti életet nem úgy értem, hogy Lúthien is vala lett volna, csupán az ő földjükön maradhatott volna. Erre hétszáz %, hogy lehetőséget kapott: választhatott e között és a Berennel való, de halandó lét között. Az utóbbit választotta. (A Szilmarilok; Beren és Lúthien.)

"Bízz Istenben, és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!" (Oliver Cromwell)

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

amanibhavam
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amanibhavam válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

nem beszélve arról, hogy L+B nem is találkozhatott senkivel "második élete" során

love is the shadow that ripens the wine

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ankalimon
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Ankalimon válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

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angwen írta: Azért ez tudtommal nem egészen így van, legalábbis én nem hallottam róla, hogy Mandos csarnokaiból csak úgy ki lehetne mászkálni Valinorba. Lúthien esete egyedi volt: neki nagy tetteire való tekintettel felajánlották a lehetőséget, hogy a Valák között élhessen. Az emberek sem szűnnek meg haláluk után, már ha ezt érted "feledésbe merülés" alatt, csak eltávoznak, senki se tudja, hová. Tehát ténylegesen elhagyják ezt a világot, míg a tündék az idők végezetéig üldögélnek Mandosnál, bár arra tényleg van utalás, hogy időnként visszatérhetnek. Lehet vitatkozni, ki járt jobban.

A tündék életciklusa a reinkarnációra épül. Néhány speciális kivételtől eltekintve minden halott tünde reinkarnálódik egy új testben. A legismertebb reinkarnációs eset Glorfindel-é, aki meghalt Gondolin ostrománál, majd újjászületve Elrond udvarában élt. Az ellenpéldát pedig a lázadó noldák jelentik, akiknek Mandos átka megtiltja az újjászületést.

Tudomásom szerint Luthiennek soha sem ajánlották fel, hogy a valák között élhessen. Ő azt a kivételes elbánást kapta, hogy Berennel együtt, nem gyermekként újjászületve, hanem felnőtt testi valójában térhetett vissza Középföldére. Beren ajándéka sokkal különlegesebb volt: ő annak ellenére térhetett vissza testi alakot öltve Középföldére, hogy ember létére rá nem vonatkozott a tündék reinkarnációja. Viszont mindkettőjüknek az emberek sorsát kellett követniük, vagyis amikor másodszor, immár véglegesen meghaltak, már egyikük sem került Mandos-nak a tündék számára fenntartott csarnokaiba, hanem az emberek útját követték az ismeretlenbe.

Az igazság a kis álom, amelyben az én elgondolja a világot.
A valóság a nagy álom, amelyben Isten gondolja önmagát.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ragoran
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23 éve 2 hete #81010 Írta: Ragoran

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Ragoran válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

gportal.hu/ragoran

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Angwen
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Angwen válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Azért ez tudtommal nem egészen így van, legalábbis én nem hallottam róla, hogy Mandos csarnokaiból csak úgy ki lehetne mászkálni Valinorba. Lúthien esete egyedi volt: neki nagy tetteire való tekintettel felajánlották a lehetőséget, hogy a Valák között élhessen. Az emberek sem szűnnek meg haláluk után, már ha ezt érted "feledésbe merülés" alatt, csak eltávoznak, senki se tudja, hová. Tehát ténylegesen elhagyják ezt a világot, míg a tündék az idők végezetéig üldögélnek Mandosnál, bár arra tényleg van utalás, hogy időnként visszatérhetnek. Lehet vitatkozni, ki járt jobban.

"Bízz Istenben, és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!" (Oliver Cromwell)

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Manndil
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Beren és Lúthien legendájából világosan kiderül, hogy az elfek haláluk után Mandos csarnokába jutnak, innen pedig eljuthatnak a valák földjére egy új, boldogabb életbe, ellentétben az emberekkel akik ha meghalnak feledésbe merülnek.......

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ragoran
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Ragoran válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Esticsillag:
Tényleg klassz hely lehet!
Ami pedig a tengert illeti:
A Bakacsin erdőben és Lórienben sincs tenger és a tündék ott is jól eléldegéltek(, ami persze nem jelenti azt, hogy nem hiányzott nekik a tenger!)... :roll:

______________
'...összeforr a törött szablya
s koronás lesz a király...'
Rago

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Esticsillag
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Esticsillag válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Sziasztok!
Én ismerek ilyen helyet, és nem kell érte Írországig menni! (voltam ott)
Csak egy kicsit kirándulni kell hozzá.Van egy völgy a Mecsek-hegységben ahol ha felnézel, a fák lombja, szinte az égig ér: minden csupa zöld, egy kis patak csörgedez a lábad alatt, ami egy kis vízesésben ér véget és csak a viz csobogása, és a madarak éneke hallatszik. Ahol ember nem nagyon jár, mert nincs út, a patak kövein kell ugrálni.Nincs is rajta a térképen.
Szerintem egy tünde ennél nem kívánhat többet.(csak a tenger hiányzik :roll:

)

Üdv.

"Ó ég szele, állítsd meg ott a kék egen
oly gyönyörü, hadd látom mert ellebeg."

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Erunis_
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Mindezt akár egy hozzászóláson belül is leírhattad volna... :evil3: najó, nem bántalak. Hogy az öngyilkosság szentségtörés?! Én erről sosem hallottam, nem is tudtam, honnan szeded? És hogy térhetnek vissza a halálból? Erről se olvastam még :oops:

...
Különös arról gondolkodni, hogy van-e egyáltalán a földön olyan hely, ahol a tündék jól érezhetik magukat...de szerintem Írországban van valami megfoghatatlan, bár még nem jártam ott, de olyan ősi az egész, hogy szinte kikapcsolsz tőle, és a lelked csak Eru tudja hol jár akkor...persze lehet hogy csak én ragadtatom el magam :confused2:
Ha belegondolsz, szerintem köze nincs a mágiához, a fák önmagukban lehettek kétszer akkorák, mint egy palota, pont ideális szerkezet kastélyoknak :wink:

Ne elégedj meg azzal, ami vagy, hanem törekedj azzá, ami lehetnél!
/falfirka az Arsenal öltözőjéből/

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Persze a film helyszínei is gyönyörűek, csak sajna ott még ( a gondolataimon kívül) nem jártam.

Ha belegondolunk elég furcsa hogy a tündék kész palotákat építettek a fákra, és az ágak nem szakadtak le. Gondolom mágiával erősítették meg őket.

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Manndil
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Valóban szép képek. Horvát országban nyaraltam, elmentünk a plitvicai tavakhoz. Gyönyörű hely. Biztosan tetszene az elfeknek. Életemben nem voltam még ilyen gyönyörű helyen, ha visszagondolok rá, a könnyem is kicsordul.

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

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Manndil
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Elrond. Elfelejtetted Észak- Bakacsin erdő tündéit ? Őket közvetlenül fenyegeti a gonosz. Nekik is harccal kell megvédeniük magukat.

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

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Manndil
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Tolkien tündéi visszatérhetnek a halálból...

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

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Manndil
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Az elfek számára az öngyilkosság szentségtörés!

Járd a saját utad, s ha társad akad, fogadd barátságát, míg együtt haladtok, s válj el könnyű szívvel tőle, ha új útra térsz, s emlékezz rá barátsággal, míg utad végéig érsz.

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Elrond
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Minerva írta:
Estel Adániel írta: A vidámságukra és könnyedségükre vonatkozólag gondoljatok csak arra a részre, amikor Bilbó előadja az (Aragorn által csak igen kevéssé módosított) Earendilről szóló énekét, ők pedig a birkák egyformaságáról kezdenek el elmélkedni
Egyszerűen nyugis helyük volt ott, és kész!
Lehet, h a vidéki levegő teszi?
Elrond: csak vicceltem, a tündék nem lököttek! (Főleg Elrond nem )

Völgyzugolyban a tündéknek nem kell félniük, mert Elrond Gyűrűjének, és magának Elropndnak, és a többi tündének a hatalma viszatartja a gonoszt. Ugyanez van Lórienben megtoldva egy hadsereggel.

The echo of a distant time
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine

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Ragoran
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Ragoran válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Sil: opszassza! :oops:

Celeborn: köszönöm!!!
____________
'...összeforr a törött szablya
s koronás lesz a király...'
Rago

gportal.hu/ragoran

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Erunis_
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Erunis_ válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Hát jó, erre nem tudok mit szólni... :oops:

úgyhogy dobjunk fel vmi T-mát.
Azon gondolkodtam mostanság (tuti, hogy már volt téma, de én arról lemaradtam :oops:

), hogy a tündék "halhatatlansága" nem más, mint fiatalság a halálig. Ugyanis ők is halandóak, nagyon is, hiszen ha erőszakos halállal halnak meg, az az életük végét jelenti (a Szilmarilokból), és ha a bánatba halnak bele, akkor nemkülönben. Mivel az öngyilkosság is erőszakos halál, így azt is elkövethetik, egy csatában pedig ugyanígy... szóval csak a kor és a betegségek nem fognak rajtuk, ugye

Ne elégedj meg azzal, ami vagy, hanem törekedj azzá, ami lehetnél!
/falfirka az Arsenal öltözőjéből/

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Celeborn
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Hi!
Ami a világítótesteket illeti, erre van egy utalás a Gyűrű keresése (Unfinished Tales) első rész, első fejezetének jegyzetei között. Eszerint: "Az egyiik, Gwindor történetéhez fűzött jegyzet "Feanor lámpásáinak" nevezi e lámpásokat, melyek titkát még maguk a noldák sem ismerték; az ottani leírás szerint "finom láncszemes hálóban függő kristályok"-ról van szó, amelyek "belülrős sugárzó, örök, kék színű fénnel ragyognak"."
Valószínűleg Lorinendben is ezzel világítotak.

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Minerva
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Minerva válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Estel Adániel írta: A vidámságukra és könnyedségükre vonatkozólag gondoljatok csak arra a részre, amikor Bilbó előadja az (Aragorn által csak igen kevéssé módosított) Earendilről szóló énekét, ők pedig a birkák egyformaságáról kezdenek el elmélkedni
Egyszerűen nyugis helyük volt ott, és kész!

Lehet, h a vidéki levegő teszi? :mrgreen:

Elrond: csak vicceltem, a tündék nem lököttek! (Főleg Elrond nem

)

"Kard vagyok a sötétségben! A falak őre vagyok! A tűz vagyok, amely elűzi a hideget! A fény, amely elhozza a hajnalt! A kürt, amely felébreszti az alvókat!"

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Sil
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Sil válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Ragoran írta: Galadriel Gyűrűje??? 8O :
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... scrown.jpg

Na neee!

Ez a koronája.
Világítani meg nem valami zöld és fehér fényű lámpásokkal világítottak?

Noldor, blood is on your hands
Tears unnumbered
You will shed and dwell in pain

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www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... mrodel.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... _hdr20.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... _tor31.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... _small.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... n_base.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... lorien.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... lorien.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... ladhon.jpg
Galadriel Gyűrűje??? 8O

:
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... scrown.jpg
Ezek a képek alapján szivesen laknék Lothlórienben!! Arra mondjuk kiváncsi lennék, hogy hogy világítottak!! Addig rendben van, hogy gyertyával, de honnan szereznek hozzá anyagot és honnan szereznek gyufát?? Jó valszeg nem gyufát használtak, de akkor tűzkövet használtak???
Még pár kép:
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... ienelf.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... ebanks.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... lorien.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... bridge.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... erlode.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... saloma.jpg
Haldír:
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... haldir.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... tinels.jpg
Ezek naon szépek!!! 8O
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... lorien.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... eaving.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... lorien.jpg
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... n_left.jpg
Galadriel:
www.quintessentialwebsites.com/l ... ection.jpg
__________________
'...összeforr a törött szablya
s koronás lesz a király...'
Rago

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Ragoran
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Nem elérhető
COM_KUNENA_SAMPLEDATA_RANK6

Több

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Ragoran válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

_____________
'...összeforr a törött szablya
s koronás lesz a király...'
Rago

gportal.hu/ragoran

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Erunis_
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Nem elérhető
COM_KUNENA_SAMPLEDATA_RANK4

Több

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Erunis_ válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Ne elégedj meg azzal, ami vagy, hanem törekedj azzá, ami lehetnél!
/falfirka az Arsenal öltözőjéből/

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Thaurwathiwen
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Nem elérhető
COM_KUNENA_SAMPLEDATA_RANK6

Több

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Thaurwathiwen válaszolt a következő témában: Lothlórien - Tündék

Hát az biztos!

De tényleg mi lett Völgyzugollyal azután, hogy a tündék elhagyták?

"...It's okay, we call it Reid-effect. Happens with children too..."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

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