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Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaLayoutPage::$breadcrumb is deprecated in libraries/kunena/layout/base.php on line 550

Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaLayoutPage::$content is deprecated in libraries/kunena/layout/base.php on line 550

Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaLayoutPage::$breadcrumb is deprecated in libraries/kunena/layout/base.php on line 550

Unknown Error 8192: ComponentKunenaControllerTopicItemDisplay implements the Serializable interface, which is deprecated. Implement __serialize() and __unserialize() instead (or in addition, if support for old PHP versions is necessary) in components/com_kunena/controller/topic/item/display.php on line 25

Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property ComponentKunenaControllerTopicItemDisplay::$document is deprecated in libraries/kunena/controller/display.php on line 171

Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaForumCategory::$params is deprecated in libraries/kunena/forum/category/category.php on line 212

Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaForumCategory::$params is deprecated in libraries/kunena/forum/category/category.php on line 212

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Olorin.papa
Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaLayout::$user is deprecated in libraries/kunena/layout/base.php on line 550

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Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaUser::$_app is deprecated in libraries/kunena/user/user.php on line 174

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Olorin.papa válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Alyr Arkhon írta: Esetleg valami olyan lény amit Melkor hatalma eltorzított még az első sötétségben

Én is inkább ezt tartom valószínűnek. :look:

"Már születésem óta haldoklom,kissé hosszúra nyúlik. Unom."

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Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

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Alyr Arkhon
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Alyr Arkhon válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Esetleg valami olyan lény amit Melkor hatalma eltorzított még az első sötétségben

"Eala Earendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended"
/Cynewulf/

"Nem táncol többé pázsiton
Aranyerdőben tündelány"
/SÚ/

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Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ecthelion
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Ecthelion válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Ery írta:
Ecthelion írta:
Gilgolwen Nimrandir írta:
Ecthelion írta: A Tó Őre szerintem egy maia lehet, akit Melkor magához csábított. Olyasmi, mint a balrog, ám nem tűzszellem, hanem valami más, olyan aki a vizeket kedvelte. Persze ez is csak egy felvetés, bizonyíték sajna nincs.
Ha ez így van, akkor az előtt, lehetett akár Ulmo egy maiája is.

Talán Osse az?

Nem hinném. Esetleg valami kisebb hatalmu maia amelyet ilyen testbe kényyszerített. Ossénak a Tó Őrénél jóval nagyobb hatalma van. Mellesleg Ossét majdnem megkörnyékezte Melkor, de aztán nem lett belőle semmi...

Nem is gondoltam komolyan, azért voltak ott az emotikonok

"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ery
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Ery válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Ecthelion írta:
Gilgolwen Nimrandir írta:
Ecthelion írta: A Tó Őre szerintem egy maia lehet, akit Melkor magához csábított. Olyasmi, mint a balrog, ám nem tűzszellem, hanem valami más, olyan aki a vizeket kedvelte. Persze ez is csak egy felvetés, bizonyíték sajna nincs.
Ha ez így van, akkor az előtt, lehetett akár Ulmo egy maiája is.

Talán Osse az?

Nem hinném. Esetleg valami kisebb hatalmu maia amelyet ilyen testbe kényyszerített. Ossénak a Tó Őrénél jóval nagyobb hatalma van. Mellesleg Ossét majdnem megkörnyékezte Melkor, de aztán nem lett belőle semmi...

"Valami lóg a levegőben! Sajnos nem Maedhros..."

Καναπή!

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ecthelion
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Ecthelion válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Gilgolwen Nimrandir írta:
Ecthelion írta: A Tó Őre szerintem egy maia lehet, akit Melkor magához csábított. Olyasmi, mint a balrog, ám nem tűzszellem, hanem valami más, olyan aki a vizeket kedvelte. Persze ez is csak egy felvetés, bizonyíték sajna nincs.
Ha ez így van, akkor az előtt, lehetett akár Ulmo egy maiája is.

Talán Osse az? :lol:

"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Gilg (Gwindorn)
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20 éve 6 hónapja #254431 Írta: Gilg (Gwindorn)

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Gilg (Gwindorn) válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Ecthelion írta: A Tó Őre szerintem egy maia lehet, akit Melkor magához csábított. Olyasmi, mint a balrog, ám nem tűzszellem, hanem valami más, olyan aki a vizeket kedvelte. Persze ez is csak egy felvetés, bizonyíték sajna nincs.

Ha ez így van, akkor az előtt, lehetett akár Ulmo egy maiája is.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ecthelion
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Unknown Error 8192: Creation of dynamic property KunenaLayout::$link is deprecated in libraries/kunena/layout/base.php on line 550

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A Tó Őre szerintem egy maia lehet, akit Melkor magához csábított. Olyasmi, mint a balrog, ám nem tűzszellem, hanem valami más, olyan aki a vizeket kedvelte. Persze ez is csak egy felvetés, bizonyíték sajna nincs.

"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station."

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Olorin.papa
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Gandalf írta: Nem tudunk semmit a Tó Őréről, A GYU nem ír az eredetéről semmit, a Foster-féle Encikolpédia sem okosabb.

Ez így van, kedves Gandalf, azért gyártunk itt mindenféle teóriákat a lény származásáról... (tovább álmodjuk a mesét) :look: :biggrin2:

"Már születésem óta haldoklom,kissé hosszúra nyúlik. Unom."

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Gandalf
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20 éve 6 hónapja #254279 Írta: Gandalf

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Nem tudunk semmit a Tó Őréről, A GYU nem ír az eredetéről semmit, a Foster-féle Encikolpédia sem okosabb.

VÖLGYZUGOLY – MAGYAR TOLKIEN OLDALAK

Kard és Másodteremtés – Középfölde-kiegészítő a Kard és Mágia szerepjátékhoz

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Már bocsánat, a félreértésekért, de a "Morgoth teremtette" szövegben a teremtettét idéző jelbe kellett volna tennem. Azt hiszem itt a félreértés.
A "lény lehet éppen olyan egyedi, mint mondjuk Ungoliant, vagy Toma.
Csak a rossz oldalra ált, lehet az is, hogy Morgoth egy félresikerűlt kísérlete, amivel a vizet akarta meghódítani, afféle "vizisárkány", és elkerűlte a megsemmisítést. Én inkább ezen az állásponton vagyok, mert a sárkányok is halhatatlanok, és Ő is nagyon vén lehetett.

"Már születésem óta haldoklom,kissé hosszúra nyúlik. Unom."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Niph
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Niph válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Barazkibil írta:
olorin.papa írta: A "lény" egyike volt azoknak szvsz, akiket még Morgoth teremtett, Arda létrehozása idején, a tündék ébredése előtt.

Nem emlékszem olyan szövegre ami egyértelműen bizonyítaná, hogy Morgoth teremtette. Lehet, hogy egyszerűen egy természetes, csak nagyon ritka fajról van szó.

Hm.. emlékeim szerint ez a "lény", akire Gandalf utal, az még a világ kezdetén létrejövö illetve megjelenő szellemek egyike volt. Csak éppen rossz lett.Valahogy nem rémlik nekem se hogy Morgoth teremtette.

“A gyermektársaság gyógyír a lélekre.” (Dosztojevszkij)

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ecthelion
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olorin.papa írta: Gandalf azt mondja, hogy a föld mélyén az orkoknál is ocsmányabb és vénebb klények élnek,

Szvsz ez egy egyértelmű utalás a balrogra, aki tényleg mindkinél vénebb, lévén hogy maia...

"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Namarie
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Namarie válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Olorin papa: ez még szvsz nem egyértelmű bizonyíték, lehet, hogy itt érdemes lenne a szilmarilokat és a GyU-t különálló szövegként kezelni.

Pontosításra szorul a beírásod: Yavanna erdeit pontosan Morgoth ténykedése folytán népesítették be a csupa szarv és karom lények, egész pontosan: az addig szelíd, békés állatok torzultak el.

Attól függetlenül a Tó Őrét teremthette Morgoth, bár ő nem a föld mélyében él. A föld mélyében pl. a balrog lakozik, meg a legutolsó sziklaalapon lévő lények, akik a föld mélyét rágják. (Érdekes téma: Völuspa -jóslat+ Gandalf szavai). Azt gondolom, ha még Morgoth teremtményeinél is régebbi ez a lény, akkor lehetséges, hogy ő is az Őskáosz maradéka. (Ungoliantról ez az állítás egy másik topikban hangzott el. )

"ó, én vad atyámfiai, nem fog átok: elmegyek én tihozzátok"
"Gyere ide, ne félj! Biztonságban vagy a biztonságban lévők között!"

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Olorin.papa
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Barazkibil írta:
olorin.papa írta: A "lény" egyike volt azoknak szvsz, akiket még Morgoth teremtett, Arda létrehozása idején, a tündék ébredése előtt.

Nem emlékszem olyan szövegre ami egyértelműen bizonyítaná, hogy Morgoth teremtette. Lehet, hogy egyszerűen egy természetes, csak nagyon ritka fajról van szó.

Most idézhetnék neked a GyU ból, amikor Gandalf azt mondja, hogy a föld mélyén az orkoknál is ocsmányabb és vénebb klények élnek, és azt is, hogy Yavanna ős erdeit csupa szarv és karom lények népesítették be, és hogy Orome ezekra vadászott Nahar nyergében?
Nem idézem, inkább olvasd eld a könyveket! :evil:

"Már születésem óta haldoklom,kissé hosszúra nyúlik. Unom."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Barazkibil
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olorin.papa írta: A "lény" egyike volt azoknak szvsz, akiket még Morgoth teremtett, Arda létrehozása idején, a tündék ébredése előtt.

Nem emlékszem olyan szövegre ami egyértelműen bizonyítaná, hogy Morgoth teremtette. Lehet, hogy egyszerűen egy természetes, csak nagyon ritka fajról van szó.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Olorin.papa
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TharThalion írta: Ki és milyen okből állitotta oda azt a lényt amely a filmben szarepel?
:gimliaxe:

Azt senki nem állította oda, maga állt oda.
Egyébként, nem csak a filmben szerepelt, hanem a könyvben is volt.
A "lény" egyike volt azoknak szvsz, akiket még Morgoth teremtett, Arda létrehozása idején, a tündék ébredése előtt. A balroggal aludta álmát (talán) amíg a törpök fel nem zavarták álmából, és a tónak valamilyen összeköttetése lehetett a földmély óriási tavaival, igy a szörny szabadon közlekedhetett...

"Már születésem óta haldoklom,kissé hosszúra nyúlik. Unom."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ardathon
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Ardathon válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Ecthelion írta:
TharThalion írta: Ki és milyen okből állitotta oda azt a lényt amely a filmben szarepel?
:gimliaxe:

Mire gondolsz, a Tó Őrére?

Igen, de eggyátalán milyen lény?
:gimliaxe:

"Ha bajnok akarsz lenni edz is annyit mint egy bajnok!!!"

s6.bitefight.hu/c.php?uid=30021

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Ecthelion
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Ecthelion válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

TharThalion írta: Ki és milyen okből állitotta oda azt a lényt amely a filmben szarepel?
:gimliaxe:

Mire gondolsz, a Tó Őrére?

"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ardathon
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Ardathon válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Ki és milyen okből állitotta oda azt a lényt amely a filmben szarepel?
:gimliaxe:

"Ha bajnok akarsz lenni edz is annyit mint egy bajnok!!!"

s6.bitefight.hu/c.php?uid=30021

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Alyr Arkhon
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Alyr Arkhon válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Felagund írta:
Alyr Arkhon írta: Egyszerű: Nem volt kivel kereskedni. Szauron alapos munkát végzett Eregionban. Egy élő lelket sem hagyott ott.

Max néhny ork, azoknak meg elég fura fogalmaik vannak a kereskedelemről

Orkok nem valószínű. Még a Harmadkor végén is roppant tündés kisugárzása volt Magyalföldnek, és azért az orkok nincsenek úgy oda.
Keleti emberek inkább. (de azok, ha jól emlékszem, igazán csak később jelentek meg)

Egyébként Mória keleti kapuja biztosan nyitva volt, mert bár Szauron Eregionnal egyidőben elpusztította a Törpök és Emberek Nagy Szövetségét, valakivel muszáj volt kereskedniük a hadhodrondi (később móriai) törpöknek, különben gyorsan és csúnyán éhenhalnak.

"Eala Earendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended"
/Cynewulf/

"Nem táncol többé pázsiton
Aranyerdőben tündelány"
/SÚ/

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Felagund
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Felagund válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Alyr Arkhon írta: Egyszerű: Nem volt kivel kereskedni. Szauron alapos munkát végzett Eregionban. Egy élő lelket sem hagyott ott.

Max néhány ork, azoknak meg elég fura fogalmaik vannak a kereskedelemről :mrgreen:

Our knees do not bend easily

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Alyr Arkhon
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Alyr Arkhon válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Egyszerű: Nem volt kivel kereskedni. Szauron alapos munkát végzett Eregionban. Egy élő lelket sem hagyott ott.

"Eala Earendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended"
/Cynewulf/

"Nem táncol többé pázsiton
Aranyerdőben tündelány"
/SÚ/

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Gilg (Gwindorn)
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Gilg (Gwindorn) válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

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olorin.papa írta: Bocsánat, de ez nem igaz! Mória kapui Eregion pusztulásakor zároltak be!
MK 1697!

Igen igen, nem véletlenül írtam így:

idézet írta: ... és az ezekből fakadó bizalmatlanság, ellenségeskedéds miatt annyira megromlott a kapcsolat a két nép között, hogy mindez (többek között) Mória nyugati kapujának bezárásához vezetett.

...viszont a MK. 1700-as éveitől kezdve (amikor kiűzték Sauront eriadorból MK. 1701.) hosszú békeévek következtek (itt, Középfölde nyugati területein)... vajon miért nem nyíltak ki újból Mória kapui? :roll:

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Olorin.papa
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Gilgolwen Nimrandir írta:
... és az ezekből fakadó bizalmatlanság, ellenségeskedéds miatt annyira megromlott a kapcsolat a két nép között, hogy mindez (többek között) Mória nyugati kapujának bezárásához vezetett.

Bocsánat, de ez nem igaz! Mória kapui Eregion pusztulásakor zároltak be!
MK 1697!

"Már születésem óta haldoklom,kissé hosszúra nyúlik. Unom."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ecthelion
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Ecthelion válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Eru pedig már a törpök teremtésénél megjósolta, hogy ez lesz, így tehát várható volt :mrgreen:

"De amikor eljön az idő, majd fölébresztem őket, s ők lesznek a te gyermekeid; és gyakran lesz viszály a tiéid és az enyéim, fogadott és szívem szerint választott gyermekeim között."
A Szilmarilok II. fejezet, Aule és Yavanna

"A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station."

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Gilg (Gwindorn)
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Gilg (Gwindorn) válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Ery írta:
Felagund írta: Hát, lássuk csak...
A törpök levadászása a sindák által...
Menegroth feldúlása, Thingol leölése a törpök által...

Így hirtelen ennyi...

A törpök szilmaril iránti vágya.
No és persze a tündék pökhendi magatartása.

... és az ezekből fakadó bizalmatlanság, ellenségeskedéds miatt annyira megromlott a kapcsolat a két nép között, hogy mindez (többek között) Mória nyugati kapujának bezárásához vezetett.

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ery
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Ery válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Felagund írta: Hát, lássuk csak...
A törpök levadászása a sindák által...
Menegroth feldúlása, Thingol leölése a törpök által...

Így hirtelen ennyi...

A törpök szilmaril iránti vágya.

No és persze a tündék pökhendi magatartása.

"Valami lóg a levegőben! Sajnos nem Maedhros..."

Καναπή!

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Felagund
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Felagund válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Hát, lássuk csak...

A törpök levadászása a sindák által...

Menegroth feldúlása, Thingol leölése a törpök által...

Így hirtelen ennyi...

Our knees do not bend easily

Kérjük, hogy Bejelentkezés vagy vagy Fiók létrehozása, hogy csatlakozhass a beszélgetéshez!

Ardathon
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Ardathon válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Miért lett konfriktus a törpök és a tündék között?
:gimliaxe:

"Ha bajnok akarsz lenni edz is annyit mint egy bajnok!!!"

s6.bitefight.hu/c.php?uid=30021

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Felagund
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Felagund válaszolt a következő témában: Moria - Törpök

Niph/Elentári írta:
TharThalion írta:
Alyr Arkhon írta:
TharThalion írta: A törpökön kivül volt még más nep amely Mithrilt bányászott?
:gomliaxe:

A númenoriak.

De tutommal a tündék is dolgoztak Mithrillel. Akkor ők a númenoriak tól szerezték be mert ugye a törpökkel nem tápláltak jó kapcsolatot.
:gimliaxe:

Deeeee. Volt egy időszak és nemtom ár melyik tündefaj igenis jó kapcsolatot tartott fenn a törpökkel.....

Az eregioni noldák, amint azt mellon Alyr alant már kifejtette

Our knees do not bend easily

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